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Thread: Miscellaneous Tournament Rules - Answer Thread

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    Game Design Committee Member Wil Wheaton's Avatar
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    Holding Driver Station Phone during Teleoperated Period

    Quote Originally Posted by FTC9794 View Post
    Is the drive team allowed to hold the driver station phone and USB hub during the teleoperated period?

    Answer: Yes. There is nothing in the rules that prohibits members of the drive team from holding the driver station phone during the driver controlled period.

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    Miscellaneous Tournament Rules - Answer Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by FTC9978 View Post
    In the league meet guide in appendix R there are recommendations from FIRST of products to use on the mat for competitions:


    In climates when the humidity is less than 45%, FIRST recommends that Partners follow one of the actions
    below to reduce static buildup on the Robots:
    1. Use a commercial AntiStatic spray. We recommend ZERO Charge Anti-Stat or Staticide. We do not
    recommend Static Guard or other products meant for clothing.
    a. Tape the Fields prior to using spray.
    b. Spray the Field tiles at least 1 hour prior to Field use. Please be sure the area is well ventilated.
    c. Spray the Field tiles until they are damp.
    d. Allow the Field tiles to dry before use.
    i. Note: AntiStatic sprays will change the characteristics of the Field tiles. It is important to
    communicate this in advance to Teams in your Region.
    e. AntiStatic spray will need to be reapplied at every Competition.


    2. Use Water
    a. Add water to a spray bottle.
    b. Spray water on field tiles.
    c. Field tiles must be damp for this solution to be effective.
    d. Reapply every 10 to 15 minutes.

    My questions are:

    Will tournaments use something to mitigate static this season, such as anti-static spray, or water?
    If tournaments are using spray or water to mitigate static, is there a requirement that they use it for the whole season?
    The document created by FIRST provides two options (as stated above) for static mitigation. The “most effective” being staticide, and the second most effective being the water solution. The official answer from FIRST is that Affiliate Partners and Event Directors are able to decide whether or not to use either static solution. Some regions suffer more from static issues than others, and making an all or nothing ruling about static mitigation doesn’t serve the entire FIRST Tech Challenge community. There are pros and cons to both solutions, and the decision is in the hands of the Affiliate Partner or Event Director at all levels of events leading up to the State/Regional Championship Tournament.

    FIRST works closely with our Super Regional Hosts to determine whether or not the Super Regionals and World Championships will use these solutions or not. The decision will be completely for, or against, the use of these options. Teams attending a Super Regional or either World Championship will be notified of the outcome.

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    Game Design Committee Member Wil Wheaton's Avatar
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    Yellow/Red Cards During Elimination Matches

    Quote Originally Posted by FTC3785 View Post
    If a team - in an alliance - gets a yellow card for beacon bashing during the elimination round and then a second- alliance team member gets a yellow card for beacon bashing ...
    1-is the entire alliance disqualified?
    2- can they still get awards?

    Answer 1: During the elimination matches, if an alliance member earns a 2nd Yellow Card, they (and the entire alliance) receive a Red Card and Match Disqualification and thereby lose the match.

    Answer 2: Receiving cards during the elimination match does not affect the eligibility for awards.

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    Game Design Committee Member Wil Wheaton's Avatar
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    Warnings for Field Damage

    Quote Originally Posted by FTC3785 View Post
    When it comes to beacon pushing-- does a referee only give 1 warning for the entire tournament? Ex: If the first warning was in match #1-- and then in match #50 there is a another incident of aggressive beacon pushing by the same robot- is this then a yellow card violation for escalation of aggressive play. Alternatively , Is the yellow card reserved for multiple warnings in one match.

    Answer: A team that is warned at an event for aggressive game play that is deemed to be at risk of damaging the field, should expect escalation for all subsequent aggressive game play. i.e. only one warning for the entire tournament

    Play smart once you have been warned!

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    Official Team Size

    Quote Originally Posted by FTC5873 View Post
    Game Manual Part I says, "An official FIRST Tech Challenge Team consists of no more than 15 student Team members." If a team does not conform to this definition (for example, if more than fifteen students show up at a competition, or if the Team section of the Engineering Notebook lists more than fifteen students), should judges take this into account when determining awards?
    FIRST Tech Challenge has put the 15 student limit in place to ensure that each student is able to have a very active and meaningful role on the team. This does not mean that a team is disqualified from awards or competition for having more than 15. When there are more than 15 students on a team, we encourage the judges to look at the larger team with a higher expectation of what they have accomplished given the additional resources.

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    Rerunning a Match

    Quote Originally Posted by FTC5501 View Post
    According to the FIRST Control-System Troubleshooting guide, there is a possibility for malicious or interference activity: "If you are at an Event where you suspect that some malicious activity is occurring, you can try to use any available tool to identify the party that is conducting the malicious activity." Pg 30
    Our question is this: If we can prove malicious activity or interference from other sources such as wireless microphones or other electronics is taking place, causing a robot to act erratically during a match, with the FIRST recommended software, Wireshark, will the match be replayed?

    Our robot worked fine away from competition fields (worked fine on practice field in room away from competition field, at home before/after event) however the robot did unexplainable actions during some of the matches which is why we want to get a ruling on how to proceed if we can prove interference or malicious activity is taking place. Certain wireless microphone systems work in the 2.4 Ghz range and during one match this past weekend, the wireless mic had significant static/feedback and immediately all 4 robots disconnected from the field (last 10 seconds of match so no rerun of this particular match).
    To even consider a match replay, teams should provide suspicions and information to the Head Referee in the allotted time (3 matches) after the match was played. The Head Referee would work with the Field Technical Advisor to determine if there was in fact a violation of rule <T4>. It is ultimately the responsibility of the Field Technical Advisor to investigate the issue.

    Please also note that teams should only report valid and verifiable violations of this rule. Repeated requests to replay a match without valid proof of malicious activity could be considered egregious.

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